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Victoria Nuland: The American people will not let Trump abandon Ukraine

Victoria Nuland played a significant role in U.S. foreign policy, particularly concerning Russia, Ukraine, and the countries of the former Soviet Union. Nuland participated in negotiations between Russia and NATO in the '90s, as well as in talks between Russia and Ukraine in 2016 and 2022. She recently left the State Department.

Did George H.W. Bush and James Baker really never promise Gorbachev that NATO wouldn’t expand eastward? Why wasn’t Ukraine admitted to NATO in 2008? And is it true that in April 2022, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson discouraged Ukrainians from signing a peace agreement? Additionally, what might happen if Donald Trump becomes the next U.S. president?

Victoria Nuland, who is portrayed by Russian propaganda as one of Russia's main enemies, is actually a big fan of the Russian culture. She began studying Russian in college, devoured works by Chekhov, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky, and always believed that the U.S. and Russia could and should cooperate. And in our interview, she shares an incredible story about how, in the 1980s, she worked as a translator on a Soviet fishing vessel, learned to curse in Russian, drink vodka, and fend off drunk Russian men.

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